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kubuntu
JT Moree
2006-06-29 16:38:45 UTC
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I highly recommend the latest version of kubuntu for x86_64. Everything works
except scanning (I have not been able to scan in all recent distros. sarge
is the last distro I could get to scan with my HP PSC1210).

Overall things work much better than Debian sarge--which makes sense because
sarge is now ancient. (i dont run sid or testing because I want a stable
distro).

I have had to pull a few things from universe but overall most things worked
very well out of the box or after installing an extra package.

The nvidia driver is recent and works well.

The wireless works with ndiswrapper and almost works with the built in
broadcom driver.

I tried pulling some extra debs from an external repository for
nspluginwrapper and it trashed some stuff so I rebuilt the entire system.
(nspluginwrapper allows 32bit plugins to run in 64bit gecko browsers)

I had 64bit java on here before and it worked. I had both blackdown and sun
so I dont know which one was being used. I think blackdown.

I put a little more info at my page for the laptop.
https://www.pcxperience.com/WebGUI/index.pl/laptop/r3140us
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JT Mor�e
PC Xperience, Inc.
Josh Coffman
2006-06-29 17:53:26 UTC
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Post by JT Moree
I highly recommend the latest version of kubuntu for
x86_64. Everything works
except scanning (I have not been able to scan in all
recent distros. sarge
is the last distro I could get to scan with my HP
PSC1210).
Overall things work much better than Debian
sarge--which makes sense because
sarge is now ancient. (i dont run sid or testing
because I want a stable
distro).
I have had to pull a few things from universe but
overall most things worked
very well out of the box or after installing an
extra package.
The nvidia driver is recent and works well.
The wireless works with ndiswrapper and almost works
with the built in
broadcom driver.
I tried pulling some extra debs from an external
repository for
nspluginwrapper and it trashed some stuff so I
rebuilt the entire system.
(nspluginwrapper allows 32bit plugins to run in
64bit gecko browsers)
I had 64bit java on here before and it worked. I
had both blackdown and sun
so I dont know which one was being used. I think
blackdown.
I put a little more info at my page for the laptop.
https://www.pcxperience.com/WebGUI/index.pl/laptop/r3140us
Post by JT Moree
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PC Xperience, Inc.
JT! No! not an ubuntu derivitive! I will be cold and
lifeless before anyone pulls fedora out of my hands.

Just kidding. Actually the built in ndiswrapper
w/broadcom driver on a KDE distro sounds good. That's
one reason I've liked Mepis.

I've read there have been repository problems with the
latest Ubuntu release. Have you seen any problems?








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Håkan Wikström
2006-06-29 18:14:26 UTC
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<snip>
JT! No! not an ubuntu derivitive! I will be cold and
lifeless before anyone pulls fedora out of my hands.
Just kidding. Actually the built in ndiswrapper
w/broadcom driver on a KDE distro sounds good. That's
one reason I've liked Mepis.
I've read there have been repository problems with the
latest Ubuntu release. Have you seen any problems?
I haven't had any repository problems at all, but then again I use
Ubuntu 32bit. And for the record, Ubuntu and Kubuntu (and
Xubuntu...Edubuntu, etc) is the very same distribution, just a
different default set of installed apps. Same repositories. :-)

I don't use ndiswrapper any longer and I think you should avoid it
too. The free, "real" driver, bcm43xx, works perfectly for me.


Håkan
JT Moree
2006-06-29 19:04:57 UTC
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Post by Josh Coffman
I've read there have been repository problems with the
latest Ubuntu release. Have you seen any problems?
I dont use ubuntu bc I hate gnome. that said. ubuntu and kubuntu
actually pull from the same repositories so I do sorta use ubuntu bc
parts of it get installed.

Kubuntu was not ready until now IMHO. the last release was close but
the first release was horribly broken.

As for repositories, I have found that mixing repositories is always a
bad idea. stick with the stock repo that your distro supports and
you'll have a stable system (generally) you might be missing some
features but you can add them manually and not have a billion libraries
replaced on your system that conflicts with other things.

There are exceptions. I am going to install java from blackdown but it
doesn't pull very many dependencies.
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JT Morée
PC Xperience, Inc.
John Jason Jordan
2006-06-29 22:53:56 UTC
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:53:26 -0700 (PDT)
Post by Josh Coffman
I've read there have been repository problems with the
latest Ubuntu release. Have you seen any problems?
I'm using Ubuntu-64 Dapper now on my R3240. The only repository
problems I have had is that the default installation does not activate
all the possible repositories -- I mean, not even all the normal ones.
With Breezy Synaptic listed nearly 18,000 apps. The initial
installation of Dapper gave me 4,000-something. I had to enable
multiverse and universe myself and reload. Now I have 18,000+. If you
want a .deb from some nonstardard repository it sometimes is missing,
e.g., marillat. But that has always been the case with unofficial stuff.

As for the Broadcom driver, I futzed with it off and on for the better
part of a day before giving up on it. I have the 4306 and it just kept
flaking out. Sometimes it would lock up the computer. Finally I just
blacklisted it and installed ndiswrapper instead. Nidiswrapper worked
fine on Hoary and Breezy, and it continues to work fine in Dapper.
Plus, I have read a lot of complaints that the new built-in driver
(bcm43xx) has a 22 MB/s limitation, which goes away when you switch to
ndiswrapper. In addition, installing ndiswrapper is now a snap, because
it is listed in Synaptic. No more downloadng, untarring, compiling,
etc. A couple mouse clicks and a couple command line entries to insert
the bcmwl564, and there it is, working perfectly. I just use the same
64-bit Windows driver that I have always been using.

I now have everything running in 64-bit, including Adobe Reader 7.0. I
have yet to install RealPlayer 10 and Flash, and the Firefox plugins,
but posts on the Ubuntu forums indicate the process. I also need to
switch to the nVidia driver. The open-source nv driver runs fine at
1680 x 1050, but I've never been able to play a movie with it. The
biggest advantage of Dapper is that they have really enhanced the
ability to run 32-bit apps. You just install with force-architecture,
also documented on the forums. Last night I installed Opera 9.0, the
first time I have ever been able to get Opera to run in a 64-bit Linux.

No more chroot. No more bitching because the latest version of
something is not available for 64-bit. I love my Dapper!

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