Wiki soon to be gone

Discussion:

Håkan Wikström

2007-02-28 08:53:37 UTC

The wiki is soon to be gone. There are several different reasons
behind this decision:

- The only activity on it during the last year has mostly been spam bots
- With current kernels the R3000 series laptops are well supported
without any special tweaking (yay!) and the information on the wiki is
outdated
- The host is horrible and I will be moving all my own stuff to a new host soon
- I have donated my nx9105/R3000 to a friend and am now pleased to own
a laptop that is actually mobile enough to carry around in a bag (an
Apple Macbook)

If anyone wants to keep hosting it somewhere I can provide a dump of
the database.

Thanks everyone for your input on this list and on the wiki. This is
my signing off, so take care and have fun.

Håkan Wikström

Rafael Rodríguez

2007-02-28 10:54:46 UTC

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So it's time to summarize all this years with our laptops.

Personally I won't ever buy another HP laptop :) I've had several
problems (my keyboard broke[1], also my hard disk[2], I couldn't find
any universal AC charger which worked perfectly with my laptop[3],
it's big and heavy...) and right now it's freezing in Linux and also
in Windows, so I guess either the CPU or the MB are dying. :/

See you soon in another brand's forum,

Rafael Rodríguez

[1] For a simple keyboard replacement, i had to send my laptop to
Manchester, UK (!!) and stay with no PC for three or four weeks...
[2] Keyboard and hard disk were still under warranty because they
broke before the 2-year warranty expired, but anyway it's fucked up!
[3] I had to look for one because the technical service lost the original one...

Post by HÃ¥kan WikstrÃ¶m
The wiki is soon to be gone. There are several different reasons
- The only activity on it during the last year has mostly been spam bots
- With current kernels the R3000 series laptops are well supported
without any special tweaking (yay!) and the information on the wiki is
outdated
- The host is horrible and I will be moving all my own stuff to a new host soon
- I have donated my nx9105/R3000 to a friend and am now pleased to own
a laptop that is actually mobile enough to carry around in a bag (an
Apple Macbook)
If anyone wants to keep hosting it somewhere I can provide a dump of
the database.
Thanks everyone for your input on this list and on the wiki. This is
my signing off, so take care and have fun.
Håkan Wikström
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Mac Berger

2007-02-28 11:24:42 UTC

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:54:46 +0100, Rafael Rodríguez

Post by Rafael RodrÃguez
So it's time to summarize all this years with our laptops.
Personally I won't ever buy another HP laptop :)

And I will :)
I have to say, that I'm content with it... Lemme sumarize:
Pros:
- Great screen - I mean really, I bought some laptops for my friends since
I got mine and frankly, this screen is the best of them. But just to be
sure: the other laptops where: some acers (horrible screens), asus, and
toshiba satellite. I presume that IBMs and Apples have better screens, but
that You will have to tell me...
- tough - I use normal 30l backpack (without any 'laptop compartment' or
something) often packed to the max with other stuff (trip to home) and I
never had any problems (I thought I will...)
- good HDD :) - really, I have another one in external case and it broke
some time ago. And my hitachi in HP is still 100% healthy according to
SMART.
- I have to say - very reliable - nothing broke since I bought it (2.5yrs
now... my god, was it really that long ago?)

Cons:
- graphic card, but hey, I knew what I order
- too bulky
- too few USB ports... Man... only 3? USB HUB is a must
- DVD-drive plastic cover is weak - my girlfriend broke it in no time :)
- easy scrachable cover

So it isn't THAT bad :)

Cheers
Mac Berger

Gregory Gulik

2007-02-28 14:51:16 UTC

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The laptop is too heavy but is reliable, but for me the most annoying
thing about it is the placement of that trackpad!!! It's centered on
the laptop case but not centered between hands when typing normally.
Because of that my hand touches the trackpad accidentally all the time
causing the mouse to move.

I have the laptop in my family room where it gets used by guests
frequently and they're always complaining about that. Speaking of that,
does anyone know how to get rid of the feature in X11 where it handles
sliding your fingers on the bottom of the trackpad and causing the
browser to go forward and back? Most people don't expect that behavior
and accidentally go back all the time and the 2nd biggest complaint from
casual users of the laptop.

I have a Sony Vaio notebook that I bought just over a year ago and
that's a MUCH better laptop. Yeah, I spent more but it was worth it!

--
Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/
greg at gulik dot org

Michael

2007-02-28 16:01:05 UTC

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I've been very happy with mine. Great screen, no mechanical problems, and
with a "modern" distro nowadays everything works.

I've since bought another HP, a dv8230, and have been very happy with it
as well. Kubuntu works *almost* out of the box.

alan

2007-02-28 17:00:58 UTC

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Post by Mac Berger
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:54:46 +0100, Rafael Rodríguez

Post by Rafael RodrÃguez
So it's time to summarize all this years with our laptops.
Personally I won't ever buy another HP laptop :)

And I will :)
- Great screen - I mean really, I bought some laptops for my friends since I
the other laptops where: some acers (horrible screens), asus, and toshiba
satellite. I presume that IBMs and Apples have better screens, but that You
will have to tell me...

I bought mine with the uber 1920x1280 screen. Blows everything else out
of the water. Then again, I have a good optician.

Post by Mac Berger
- tough - I use normal 30l backpack (without any 'laptop compartment' or
something) often packed to the max with other stuff (trip to home) and I
never had any problems (I thought I will...)

I have had only one problem there. The PCMCIA ejector tab tends to stick
out. I ripped it out of the machine once. Thankfully I have the three
year warrenty.

Post by Mac Berger
- good HDD :) - really, I have another one in external case and it broke some
time ago. And my hitachi in HP is still 100% healthy according to SMART.

I replaced my hard drive a while ago. (I wanted 7200rpm.) I use the old
drive as a replacement whenever I need to send the system back for repair.
(Only twice so far. Once for something I did and once for the power brick
dying.)

Post by Mac Berger
- I have to say - very reliable - nothing broke since I bought it (2.5yrs
now... my god, was it really that long ago?)

Same here. Seems like yesterday.

Post by Mac Berger
- graphic card, but hey, I knew what I order

I have some problems with the graphics card. It acts like it is half
dedicated ram and half shared. That causes banding when output to the
S-Video port for anything with motion.

Post by Mac Berger
- too bulky

Very much a brick.

Post by Mac Berger
- too few USB ports... Man... only 3? USB HUB is a must

I tend to use only two at a time. I have a bigger problem with only one
of them being USB 2.0.

Post by Mac Berger
- DVD-drive plastic cover is weak - my girlfriend broke it in no time :)
- easy scrachable cover

Never had that happen.

I also had problems with the AMD64 3700+ not supporting certain
virtualization features. (It was added in a later CPU revision.)

Post by Mac Berger
So it isn't THAT bad :)

It has been a good laptop for me. I don't know if I would get another.
The weight is a big issue. Depends on what is around. The three year no
questions asked breakage warrenty has been a big plus for me. Definitly
worth the money.

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Craig Weaver

2007-02-28 12:20:13 UTC

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I could make room on my server for it if no one else steps up. I, for one,
have benefited greatly from the information in the wiki on many an occasion
and would hate to see it lost forever.

Also let me personally say thank you for setting this up in the first place.

Craig Weaver

Tom Corr

2007-02-28 13:58:09 UTC

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On Wednesday 28 February 2007 07:20, you wrote:
I, too, would like to say thank you for setting up this Wiki... I have also
found it tremndously useful over the past couple of years.

My experience with the R3000 has been really nice. No big complaints at all.
I have even gotten the XGL/compiz stuff to work on it without any problem.

Post by Craig Weaver
I could make room on my server for it if no one else steps up. I, for one,
have benefited greatly from the information in the wiki on many an occasion
and would hate to see it lost forever.
Also let me personally say thank you for setting this up in the first place.
Craig Weaver

Gregory Gulik

2007-02-28 15:14:10 UTC

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I would also like to offer space on my server to host the wiki. I have
my own Dell PowerEdge server on a T1 class service. I could easily
support a low volume site like the R3000 Wiki.

--
Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/
greg at gulik dot org

John Jason Jordan

2007-02-28 16:07:23 UTC

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:53:37 +0100

Post by HÃ¥kan WikstrÃ¶m
The wiki is soon to be gone.

Håkan,

Thank you so much for all you have done, not just with the wiki but for
participating in the list as well.

As for me, I can live without the wiki as long as this e-list continues
and is archived somewhere. I intend to use my R3240 for probably at
least another year or so, and the list should be more than adequate to
handle the occasional question. The R3000 and R4000 is no longer being
sold new, but there will still be occasional newbies out there who need
help, and I feel it is my duty to continue participating here. Getting
help means I need to give back as well.

Regarding the quality, I have to agree that there are some things I am
unhappy with -- keyboard, flaky HD connector, easily scratched top, and
t does weigh a lot. But I have to say the screen is beautiful and the
1680 x 1050 with Edgy amd64 still turns heads when people look at it. I
haven't tried Beryl or Compiz, but some day I might. As for the
touchpad, the fact that it has an on-off switch was a prime selling
point when I bought it. I had no intention of ever using it and as soon
as I placed the order for the computer I went to the local computer
store and bought a Logitech wireless optical USB mouse.

This is my first laptop and I bought it to learn Linux with. It has
served that function well. The fact that I also learned something about
laptop design as well will help when I decide to get a new computer
some day.

Bernie Hoefer

2007-03-02 18:53:11 UTC

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Håkan Wikström wrote:
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Post by HÃ¥kan WikstrÃ¶m
The wiki is soon to be gone.

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Let me add to the chorus of people to thank you for hosting the
wiki and all the work you & others have done in maintaining it.
Although I haven't used it lately, it was a great help when I was
setting my laptop up.

(My R3000Z laptop suffered a fatal shock to the motherboard in
February 2006. It will no longer boot up. Before this, the DVD-/+R
drive also stopped working. The battery & power brick still works, and
I assume the rest of the machine is still usable -- floppy drive,
memory, processor, etc. If anybody wants this laptop for spare parts,
please contact me.)

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