synaptics

[JT Moree]

I have moved to kubuntu and the touchpad now works like crap. It seems
that there is some option on that has made it super sensitive and ever
tap becomes a click and hold so that things are getting drug around the
screen just by moving the mouse.

I tried pulling in some of the old settings from distros that have
worked better but it doesn't seem to help. I have not yet isolated the
input devices in the x conf and played with tweaking them. i suspect
the ps2 driver is being used instead of the synaptics driver . . . well
no the scroll bar on the side works . . .. I

Anyone else using 2.6.15 kernels? are you seeing the same behaviour or
is it just ubunutu?

- --
JT Morée
PC Xperience, Inc.

[Fred Hensley]

Ditto. I have exactly the same experience with the latest Ubuntu
Dapper-Drake. It sounds like Gnome is having the same problem as your
latest KDE version

Played around with the configurations files for a while before finally
switching to an external mouse and disabling the touchpad.

Will be interested to find out what solutions are out there to be had.

Good luck to both of us,

-Fred-

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I have moved to kubuntu and the touchpad now works like crap. It seems
that there is some option on that has made it super sensitive and ever
tap becomes a click and hold so that things are getting drug around the
screen just by moving the mouse.
I tried pulling in some of the old settings from distros that have
worked better but it doesn't seem to help. I have not yet isolated the
input devices in the x conf and played with tweaking them. i suspect
the ps2 driver is being used instead of the synaptics driver . . . well
no the scroll bar on the side works . . .. I
Anyone else using 2.6.15 kernels? are you seeing the same behaviour or
is it just ubunutu?
- --
JT Morée
PC Xperience, Inc.
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[Karol Krizka]

Post by JT Moree
I have moved to kubuntu and the touchpad now works like crap. It seems
that there is some option on that has made it super sensitive and ever
tap becomes a click and hold so that things are getting drug around the
screen just by moving the mouse.
I tried pulling in some of the old settings from distros that have
worked better but it doesn't seem to help. I have not yet isolated the
input devices in the x conf and played with tweaking them. i suspect
the ps2 driver is being used instead of the synaptics driver . . . well
no the scroll bar on the side works . . .. I
Anyone else using 2.6.15 kernels? are you seeing the same behaviour or
is it just ubunutu?

I am also using kubuntu and don't have the problem you report. The touchpad
works just fine for me. You might want to try the ksynaptics package and play
around with settings there.

[Pierce Ward]

It sounds like Gnome is having the same problem as your latest KDE version

The problem is dependant on the X conf file and not your WM.

Install synaptics and edit your xorg.conf (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) as on the
wiki.

Post by JT Moree
I have moved to kubuntu and the touchpad now works like crap. It seems
that there is some option on that has made it super sensitive and ever
tap becomes a click and hold so that things are getting drug around the
screen just by moving the mouse.
I tried pulling in some of the old settings from distros that have
worked better but it doesn't seem to help. I have not yet isolated the
input devices in the x conf and played with tweaking them. i suspect
the ps2 driver is being used instead of the synaptics driver . . . well
no the scroll bar on the side works . . .. I
Anyone else using 2.6.15 kernels? are you seeing the same behaviour or
is it just ubunutu?

I am also using kubuntu and don't have the problem you report. The touchpad
works just fine for me. You might want to try the ksynaptics package and play
around with settings there.
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[JT Moree]

Post by JT Moree
I have moved to kubuntu and the touchpad now works like crap. It seems
that there is some option on that has made it super sensitive and ever
tap becomes a click and hold so that things are getting drug around the
screen just by moving the mouse.
I tried pulling in some of the old settings from distros that have
worked better but it doesn't seem to help. I have not yet isolated the
input devices in the x conf and played with tweaking them. i suspect
the ps2 driver is being used instead of the synaptics driver . . . well
no the scroll bar on the side works . . .. I

A friend of mine with ubuntu is having the same problems. I tried the
ksynaptics package and sure I can adjust all sorts of settings but none
of them work. the sensitivity doesn't change, the tapping timing
doesn't change. I even turned tapping OFF yet it still activates mouse
presses when I TOUCH the pad. that's the problem I can't get the stupid
pad to JUST move the mouse. IT ALMOST ALWAYS activates a left mouse
click and I end up dragging crap all over the screen and screwing stuff up.

I tried the Alps option both on and off. Anyone else using the
touchpad? can you give more some pointers on how you have the options set?

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PC Xperience, Inc.

[Jeff Mitzelfelt]

I had the same problem and finally found a fix this last week.

http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/

the page also has links to information on the settings for the synaptics
driver. One issue that isn't covered in the change to the xorg.conf file is
the "Synaptics Touchpad" was referenced farther down in the ServerLayout
section of xorg.conf. This needs to be changed to "Alps Touchpad" or
whatever you changed the name to.

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Post by JT Moree
I have moved to kubuntu and the touchpad now works like crap. It seems
that there is some option on that has made it super sensitive and ever
tap becomes a click and hold so that things are getting drug around the
screen just by moving the mouse.
I tried pulling in some of the old settings from distros that have
worked better but it doesn't seem to help. I have not yet isolated the
input devices in the x conf and played with tweaking them. i suspect
the ps2 driver is being used instead of the synaptics driver . . .

well

Post by JT Moree
no the scroll bar on the side works . . .. I

A friend of mine with ubuntu is having the same problems. I tried the
ksynaptics package and sure I can adjust all sorts of settings but none
of them work. the sensitivity doesn't change, the tapping timing
doesn't change. I even turned tapping OFF yet it still activates mouse
presses when I TOUCH the pad. that's the problem I can't get the stupid
pad to JUST move the mouse. IT ALMOST ALWAYS activates a left mouse
click and I end up dragging crap all over the screen and screwing stuff up.
I tried the Alps option both on and off. Anyone else using the
touchpad? can you give more some pointers on how you have the options set?
- --
JT Morée
PC Xperience, Inc.
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[JT Moree]

Post by Jeff Mitzelfelt
I had the same problem and finally found a fix this last week.
http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
<http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/>

these pages were ok but the gentoo wiki documents everything very nicely.

Unfortunately I think there is a bug or serious design problem with the
current synaptics drivers. I CANNOT get the touchpad to single click.
It always does a click and drag even if I just tap the pad. After a few
hours of messing with it I'm extremely frustrated. I have been able to
turn off tapping so at least the pad is usable as a mouse.

I documented all my work on
http://www.pcxperience.com/WebGUI/index.pl/laptop/r3140us#touchpad

including the link to the gentoo wiki.

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JT Morée
PC Xperience, Inc.

[Benjamin Sexson]

I am at work and can't look at my xorg.conf right now but I had the same
problem until I set the event properly. I will look when I get to my
laptop.

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Subject: [LinuxR3000] synaptics
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:50:49 -0500
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I have moved to kubuntu and the touchpad now works like crap. It seems
that there is some option on that has made it super sensitive and ever
tap becomes a click and hold so that things are getting drug around the
screen just by moving the mouse.
I tried pulling in some of the old settings from distros that have
worked better but it doesn't seem to help. I have not yet isolated the
input devices in the x conf and played with tweaking them. i suspect
the ps2 driver is being used instead of the synaptics driver . . . well
no the scroll bar on the side works . . .. I
Anyone else using 2.6.15 kernels? are you seeing the same behaviour or
is it just ubunutu?
- --
JT Morée
PC Xperience, Inc.
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[Frank Edwards]

Post by JT Moree
can you give more some pointers on how you have the options set?

Here are my xorg.conf settings, and the output from lsmod(1) (the lsmod
output is to show that I'm not using any special drivers for the touchpad).
These settings let me turn the touchpad on/off using the switch just above
the pad and everything still works. Although the sensitivity of the
mousedown event is still a bit too high, but I rarely use the touchpad
anyway...

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse[1]"
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Name" "Autodetection"
Option "Protocol" "imps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse[3]"
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Name" "Autodetection"
Option "Protocol" "imps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Option "Clone" "off"
Option "Xinerama" "off"
Screen "Screen[0]"
EndSection

As you can see, the external USB mouse and the touchpad are configured
identically, although the USB is configured as the "CorePointer". (Hmm,
you know... I'm wondering if the second entry is even used. Since all mice
are coalesced into a single input stream, maybe I don't even need
"Mouse[3]"?)

This next chunk will look better if you switch to a fixed-width font...

# lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_utf8 2688 0
subfs 9600 1
ipt_LOG 8064 1
ipt_limit 2944 1
cpufreq_ondemand 8108 1
cpufreq_userspace 5828 0
cpufreq_powersave 2304 0
powernow_k8 12048 0
freq_table 5512 1 powernow_k8
ppp_generic 32544 0
slhc 8192 1 ppp_generic
snd_pcm_oss 70432 0
snd_mixer_oss 22144 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0 40096 1
snd_ac97_codec 117188 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus 3328 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 117260 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 29320 1 snd_pcm
snd 77600 8
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 11808 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 13200 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
button 8736 0
battery 12296 0
ac 6664 0
nvidia 5433816 12
vmnet 42008 9
vmmon 147960 0
af_packet 25356 2
edd 12448 0
ip6t_REJECT 6528 3
ipt_REJECT 6656 3
ipt_state 2432 2
iptable_mangle 3584 0
iptable_nat 28120 0
iptable_filter 3712 1
ip6table_mangle 2944 0
ip_conntrack 51572 2 ipt_state,iptable_nat
ip_tables 22528 7
ipt_LOG,ipt_limit,ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
ip6table_filter 3456 1
ip6_tables 21120 3 ip6t_REJECT,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_filter
ipv6 289024 15 ip6t_REJECT
joydev 12288 0
pcmcia 45972 0
firmware_class 12416 1 pcmcia
usbhid 49696 0
yenta_socket 27276 2
rsrc_nonstatic 14720 1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core 47260 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
ohci1394 36684 0
ieee1394 118648 1 ohci1394
8139too 30848 0
mii 6784 1 8139too
shpchp 101032 0
pci_hotplug 31720 1 shpchp
ehci_hcd 36744 0
generic 5892 0 [permanent]
sata_nv 11396 0
libata 57608 1 sata_nv
scsi_mod 161976 1 libata
ohci_hcd 22916 0
usbcore 140596 4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
i2c_nforce2 8576 0
i2c_core 25752 2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
parport_pc 44912 1
lp 14336 0
parport 43532 2 parport_pc,lp
vfat 15872 0
fat 58032 1 vfat
dm_mod 65648 0
reiserfs 267120 2
fan 6152 0
ide_cd 45984 0
cdrom 40888 1 ide_cd
thermal 17932 0
processor 28632 2 powernow_k8,thermal
amd74xx 16048 0 [permanent]
ide_disk 19584 4
ide_core 158616 4 generic,ide_cd,amd74xx,ide_disk
#

Good luck!